Liberal leadership rivals clash over Trudeau's focus on class

I find it a little challenging to understand how you would understand the challenges facing real Canadians," Findlay said to Trudeau.

"EyeBrock" said
Trudeau will be the best thing that's happened to the Tories since Iggy.

A rich guy, on our streets, with cash, wanting votes.....

"andyt" said
Desparate move by MHF, and she had to apologize the next day. She showed no class at all. But then we see the same desparate move here on CKA, someone trying to tell people they can't make comments on a subject because they don't...what have you.

Justin's inheritance pays him about 20k a year. He gets access to the entire 1.2 million when he turns 40. That's not a lot of money either way. It allowed him to take lower paying jobs, go to school and do some travelling, not live the bling lifestyle. When he started a family, and with getting the lower pay of an MP (vs making up to 500k a year on speaking engagements), he sold his condo and bought a cheaper house on which he has a huge mortgage. He's not rolling in it.

Her remarks elicited a negative reaction from the crowd but Findlay plowed through the booing to ask: "When did Canada become a society of class?"

"Your campaign has brought a concept into this conversation that I think we need to get beyond � it is equality of opportunity that we should be looking for," Findlay said.

"jj2424" said
I find it VERY HARD to believe he only got 1.2 million. Considering his family that's chump change. Somebody cooked the books.

Did the old man piss it all way on wine and woman?

Justin Trudeau�s inheritance is worth $1.2 million

OTTAWA � Liberal leadership front-runner Justin Trudeau has provided a rare disclosure of his personal finances to quell speculation about his family�s wealth and head off concerns over potential conflicts of interest.

At the request of the Citizen, Trudeau�s campaign staff produced a valuation of the company that manages the money he inherited from his father and gave a full list of his paid speaking events in the years before he announced his run for the leadership.

The documents show that while Trudeau�s inheritance is now worth about $1.2 million, he also built up a public-speaking business that earned him more than $450,000 in its best year.

Should he become Liberal leader Trudeau says he will set a new ethical standard by moving the stocks and bonds he inherited into a blind trust, a requirement that is currently in place for cabinet ministers but not for most MPs.

Trudeau, 41, allows that he �won the lottery� by having a wealthy family but says there are misconceptions about the size of the estate left by his father.

�I�ve quietly grown used to people being shocked that I don�t live in a castle,� said Trudeau, who resides in a semi-detached two-storey Montreal home with a sizable mortgage.

He said he agreed to speak about his personal finances, a subject he has never discussed publicly, so that people would better understand how he chose to use his money.

�It wasn�t to go off and spend a year in Saint-Tropez or buy a boat and sail around the world,� he said after a campaign stop in St. Catharines, Ont., last week.

�I worked as a high school teacher and a whitewater river guide in the summer to make money. I worked as a camp counsellor earning $900 for a summer.�

Dividends from the family�s holding company were not enough to live off, Trudeau says, but the money did allow him to travel, study and take lower paying jobs before he became a professional public speaker and, later, an MP.

Trudeau says his father had hoped the family money would allow him and his brother to pursue their interests � his in education and now politics, brother Alexandre (�Sacha�) in filmmaking and journalism � without having to take the well-trod path of Montreal well-to-do into law or business.

�Whatever we wanted to do, we had enough to live a modest but decent life. And that was incredibly lucky.�

The Trudeau family wealth originates with Justin�s grandfather, Charles-�mile Trudeau, who made his fortune in Montreal gas stations in the early part of the 20th century. He rolled his money into real estate, carrying the family through the Depression, and also owned part of Montreal�s Belmont Park and the Montreal Royals baseball team.

Charles-�mile Trudeau died suddenly in his early 40s of a heart attack, which his wife Grace blamed on the drinking and cigar-smoking lifestyle of businessmen of the day.

Pierre Trudeau, age 15 at the time, was devastated by his father�s death. Combined with his mother�s Scottish temperance, it forever coloured his own attitude to money, his son says. He didn�t smoke, rarely drank more than wine and developed a reputation for tight-fistedness.

�He was very careful about it,� said Trudeau. �He was notorious for under-tipping in restaurants.�

Pierre Trudeau inherited a share of his father�s money, split with his own siblings. Later in life, he prepared to portion it out to his sons.

The boys were given shares in 90562 Canada Inc., the federal corporation that held Trudeau�s portfolio of securities, managed by Montreal investment firm Jarislowsky Fraser.

The succession plans were set up to transfer the company�s assets to the Trudeau sons over time, to guard against the possibility the money would vanish in a spending binge in their wild 20s. This scheduled transfer concludes only when Justin reaches age 45 in 2016 � with distribution of artwork and some property still in the estate.

As they came of age, the heirs received regular dividends from the company � Justin�s topped out at about $20,000 annually � to supplement their incomes.

Aided by this stipend, Justin backpacked around Europe after high school and later travelled through Africa, then went to teachers� college. His undergraduate studies at McGill were funded, in part, by the Canada Savings Bonds his father had bought every year at Christmas.

After school, Trudeau ended up in Whistler Village, B.C., teaching snowboarding and putting his martial arts and boxing training to work as a doorman at the Rogue Wolf nightclub.

In Whistler, he slept on a friend�s sofa and drove a beat-up used Mercedes with holes in the floor.

�There was no thought of going off to be a ski bum. I knew I had to go off and work. I liked the idea of being a bouncer. But I didn�t have to worry about what my salary was.�

As he became serious about a career, the family money backstopped him when he took a job teaching in Vancouver, supplementing his salary of about $44,000.

His first grown-up car followed � a modest Volkswagen Jetta � but he continued to share a home with roommates for a time. When he decided to return to school in Montreal to study engineering, the earnings from the estate helped him to do that, too.

Starting in 2006, Trudeau tapped into a vocation that became far more lucrative that teaching � paid speaking. His family name and advocacy for youth issues had put him in demand, and he signed up with Speaker�s Spotlight bureau.

The arrangement proved highly profitable. Trudeau earned $290,000 from speaking events in 2006, according to documents voluntarily provided by his campaign. His first events were booked at $5,000 each, but his fee quickly rose with the demand. Clients that year included MasterCard Canada, the Association of Fundraising Professionals and the Canadian Federation of Independent Grocers.

In 2007, with some clients paying $15,000 for an event, Trudeau earned a jaw-dropping $462,000 on the circuit speaking to the Toronto Board of Trade, the Society of Management Accountants of Ontario, the Niagara Catholic District School Board and 43 other groups.

In addition to his fee, Trudeau received business-class plane tickets, according to his standard speaking contract. The only special demands required of the host were non-bottled water, a stool, two microphones and a room at the venue to prepare.

With this large salary rolling in, Trudeau and his wife, Sophie Gr�goire, sold their Montreal condo and bought a $1.2 million home in Outremont, with plans to start a family. Gr�goire became pregnant with their first child almost immediately.

The speaking work tailed off in 2008 when Trudeau ran for the Liberals in the working-class Montreal riding of Papineau, upsetting the Bloc Qu�b�cois incumbent Vivian Barbot.

With Justin earning a lower income as an MP, and Gr�goire staying home with their growing family, the Trudeaus decided to downsize rather than draw down on his inheritance.

In 2010, they sold the Outremont house for $1.6 million and bought a smaller semi-detached home near Mont Royal for $777,000, with a $622,000 mortgage, according to Quebec property records.

With the approval of the federal ethics commissioner, Trudeau continued to take on occasional paid speaking jobs while sitting as an MP, though far fewer of them. As recently as 2012, he earned $72,000 for four speaking events. Now that he is seeking the Liberal leadership, Trudeau has discontinued this work.

Over the years, there were adjustments to the inheritance scheme, to account for the death of youngest son Michel in an avalanche in 1998, and in the early 1990s, the birth of Sarah, Pierre Trudeau�s daughter with constitutional lawyer Deborah Coyne, who is also running for the Liberal leadership.

In 2010, the holdings in Pierre Trudeau�s original numbered company were �butterflied� and split into separate companies.

Justin Trudeau�s company, 7664699 Canada Inc., had assets worth $1,242,522 as of August 2011, according to a statement prepared by accounting firm BDO last summer.

Of this amount, $958,154 was held in short-term investments and another $255,455 in cash.

The Trudeaus are also beneficiaries of another numbered company that receives royalties from their father�s autobiography and other sources � about $10,000 a year, Trudeau estimates.

These companies are listed in the public conflict-of-interest disclosure report Trudeau is required to complete as an MP.

But by disclosing the value of his holdings and speaking income, Trudeau far surpasses the reporting requirements for MPs, cabinet ministers and even the prime minister, who must list assets and income sources worth more than $10,000 but not their exact values.

Trudeau says that while he is aware of the approximate value of his holdings, he pays no attention to which stocks he owns through the company.

�I don�t care to know,� he said. �I�ve been having it as a de facto blind trust. And if and when I become leader, I�ll make it a formal blind trust just so it�s not a hassle.�

All the decisions with the portfolio are made by Pierre Lapointe, a senior partner at Jarislowsky Fraser.

Trudeau says part of his portfolio is likely invested in oilsands companies but he isn�t certain. It�s just as well he doesn�t know, he says, so he can comment on issues such as the sale of Nexen Inc. or the proposed Northern Gateway pipeline without concern he is acting in his own interest.

Also part of the Trudeau estate are a summer place on a lake near Morin Heights and the family�s distinctive art deco home on Pine Avenue in Montreal that is now occupied by Sacha and his family. Justin got to keep the Mercedes-Benz convertible that his father famously drove on Parliament Hill in the late 1960s.

�For me there are only two things that actually remind me of my childhood with my father that were permanent � one was that car and the other is the lake up north.�

Trudeau stores the Mercedes at a Montreal car dealership. He takes it out for drives in the summer sometimes, but even if he wins the leadership or the larger prize of reclaiming 24 Sussex Drive, he won�t be doing a victory lap on the Hill.

�That was my dad�s thing. I�m a different person,� he says. �I don�t wear roses, either.�

If Trudeau wins the leadership and takes the Liberals into the 2015 federal election, he knows his comparative wealth could become an issue.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has built his political persona by targeting the middle class, with tax credits for pee-wee hockey or gymnastics and constant allusions to Tim Hortons.

Trudeau knows he can make no such claim.

�I�m not middle class. I don�t pretend I am,� he said.

Trudeau said he was confronted with questions about his wealth when he first ran in Papineau, one of Quebec�s most economically-disadvantaged ridings.

�My answer was, no, I don�t know what it�s like to not know where my next meal is coming from.�

But he said he realized that he could use the education and experience his family money afforded him in the service of people in his riding.

�I realized I couldn�t feel guilty about what I had. I just had to do right with what I had,� he said.

�It makes it worth, retroactively, the lottery I won at birth.�

"andyt" said
Desparate move by MHF, and she had to apologize the next day. She showed no class at all. But then we see the same desparate move here on CKA, someone trying to tell people they can't make comments on a subject because they don't...what have you.

Justin's inheritance pays him about 20k a year. He gets access to the entire 1.2 million when he turns 40. That's not a lot of money either way. It allowed him to take lower paying jobs, go to school and do some travelling, not live the bling lifestyle. When he started a family, and with getting the lower pay of an MP (vs making up to 500k a year on speaking engagements), he sold his condo and bought a cheaper house on which he has a huge mortgage. He's not rolling in it.

"andyt" said
Read the article I posted. But why the hate? I thought making money was a good thing?