A showdown is underway between the Musqueam First Nation and a private land owner who wants to build condos on what the band says is a sacred burial ground.
Just how did this "Sacred Burial Land" get into the hands of a private developer in the first place? If it was sold to him, and isn't designated a Heritage site, he can build on it.
The north end of Arthur Laing Bridge appears to be well developed already. Why are they picking on this one developer? Where were they when everything else in that area was being put it?
"OnTheIce" said Sure thing OTI. And I'm sure you'd be just fine if they dug up your family's grave to build some shitty condos?
Why is it they care now?
Because big money and corporations are involved.
If only they put that effort and dedication into helping their own people from poverty, addiction and poor housing. Big money and corporations were involved with the previous develpments at the north end too, so what's different now? Maybe because it actually IS a burial ground?
Unmarked graves eh? I guess if their ancestors had put some memorial up it would have been preserved. If you bury loved ones like you bury the family pet dont be surprised if people dont respect what you left behind.
"Guy_Fawkes" said Unmarked graves eh? I guess if their ancestors had put some memorial up it would have been preserved. If you bury loved ones like you bury the family pet dont be surprised if people dont respect what you left behind.
Why the hell would you expect a different culture to deal with their dead the same way we do? You'd be surprised how many cultures DON'T mark their burial sites in the "traditional" sense.
By traditional you mean having some sort of monolith or structure designating the area as such? Most developed cultures do that. They wanted their families and loved ones to be remembered, to go back to where they are buried. From what it sounds like here they forgot where they put them and sold the land. Now that the land is valuable, their ancestors have also become something that they value. What will happen if they build the condos but not find a any evidence of it being a burial site.
"Guy_Fawkes" said By traditional you mean having some sort of monolith or structure designating the area as such? Most developed cultures do that. They wanted their families and loved ones to be remembered, to go back to where they are buried. From what it sounds like here they forgot where they put them and sold the land. Now that the land is valuable, their ancestors have also become something that they value. What will happen if they build the condos but not find a any evidence of it being a burial site.
Obviously they'll be built then. But what if they DO find remains? Are you suggesting that the condos should be slapped up anyway because they "forgot where they put their dead and sold the land"? Does respect for the dead only apply if the dead are interred in a clearly defined cemetery?
I'm embarrassed these people are part of our Country. A pimple on the ass of progress.
Sure thing OTI. And I'm sure you'd be just fine if they dug up your family's grave to build some shitty condos?
Why is it they care now?
Because big money and corporations are involved.
If only they put that effort and dedication into helping their own people from poverty, addiction and poor housing.
Why is it they care now?
Because big money and corporations are involved.
BINGO!!
Sure thing OTI. And I'm sure you'd be just fine if they dug up your family's grave to build some shitty condos?
Why is it they care now?
Because big money and corporations are involved.
If only they put that effort and dedication into helping their own people from poverty, addiction and poor housing.
Big money and corporations were involved with the previous develpments at the north end too, so what's different now? Maybe because it actually IS a burial ground?
Unmarked graves eh? I guess if their ancestors had put some memorial up it would have been preserved. If you bury loved ones like you bury the family pet dont be surprised if people dont respect what you left behind.
Why the hell would you expect a different culture to deal with their dead the same way we do? You'd be surprised how many cultures DON'T mark their burial sites in the "traditional" sense.
By traditional you mean having some sort of monolith or structure designating the area as such? Most developed cultures do that. They wanted their families and loved ones to be remembered, to go back to where they are buried. From what it sounds like here they forgot where they put them and sold the land. Now that the land is valuable, their ancestors have also become something that they value. What will happen if they build the condos but not find a any evidence of it being a burial site.
Obviously they'll be built then. But what if they DO find remains? Are you suggesting that the condos should be slapped up anyway because they "forgot where they put their dead and sold the land"?
Does respect for the dead only apply if the dead are interred in a clearly defined cemetery?
Does respect for the dead only apply if the dead are interred in a clearly defined cemetery?
That might be a problem for the fields where we throw ashes of our loved ones... Nothing to be found, yet sacred...
Does respect for the dead only apply if the dead are interred in a clearly defined cemetery?
Yes.
You cant dig a shallow grave, toss a body in it, then claim 100 years from then it is a sacred site.
Erect something permanent or maintain the area so that it is not lost.