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Russian treason bill could hit Kremlin critics

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Russian treason bill could hit Kremlin critics


Political | 206741 hits | Dec 17 6:49 pm | Posted by: Eisensapper
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New legislation backed by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin would allow Russian authorities to label any government critic a traitor -- a move that rights activists said Wednesday was a chilling throwback to times of Soviet dictator Josef Stalin.

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  1. by roger-roger
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:09 am
    Kinda of makes Canadian politics look like a pillow fight.

  2. by avatar llama66
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:15 am
    http://www.truveo.com/The-Simpsons-Sovi ... 1103639424

  3. by avatar Freakinoldguy
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:48 am
    I guess the next logical step for Vladamir is to open up the Gulag's and start killing off millions of his own people, just like his idol Josef S.

    Welcome to the 1930's Communist style.

  4. by avatar llama66
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:31 am
    only Putin is no longer President, he is Prime Minister, so it would be Medvedev (who became President in May) who would open gulags and such (although doubtful), although I doubt they would kill millions of their own, Iosef Stalin was insane dictator who murdered his way to the top (Trotsky was supposed to lead, be we all know what happened in Mexico City...), Medvedev and Putin are devout nationalists who believe Russia was better off under the strict guidance of the state and free from foreign interference. Despite the funny movie I posted previously I doubt we will see a new Communist regime anytime soon, I think rather we will see a repeal of rights until there is a near totalitarianism regime, rather than a Communist regime. I think both Putin and Medvedev realize that a communist regime would be suicide in the current world but a strong Socialist state may not be.

  5. by avatar commanderkai
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:54 am
    "llama66" said
    Despite the funny movie I posted previously I doubt we will see a new Communist regime anytime soon, I think rather we will see a repeal of rights until there is a near totalitarianism regime, rather than a Communist regime. I think both Putin and Medvedev realize that a communist regime would be suicide in the current world but a strong Socialist state may not be.


    The Simpsons know all!

    Anyway, I'm just assuming you're thinking Soviet Union 2.0 will be based on what China is now?

  6. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:57 am
    "Freakinoldguy" said
    I guess the next logical step for Vladamir is to open up the Gulag's and start killing off millions of his own people, just like his idol Josef S.

    Welcome to the 1930's Communist style.



    Putin is a numbers man. He'd like to see one follow his name.

  7. by avatar Tman1
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:00 am
    And to the many Russians who idolize this behaviour. There are still many Stalin statues still standing. Most likely the Russians welcome this and hark back to being mindless automatons from the great Soviet days. The younger generation are so used to corruption it wouldn't matter that much.

    P.S - Isn't Putin supposed to be out of power? Ahh yes, nobody in Russia is "ever" out of power.

  8. by avatar ShepherdsDog
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:24 am
    Most Russians have had a slave/serf mentality since the days of the Kievan Rus....as in they've always had it.

  9. by avatar llama66
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:30 am
    "Tman1" said
    And to the many Russians who idolize this behaviour. There are still many Stalin statues still standing. Most likely the Russians welcome this and hark back to being mindless automatons from the great Soviet days. The younger generation are so used to corruption it wouldn't matter that much.

    P.S - Isn't Putin supposed to be out of power? Ahh yes, nobody in Russia is "ever" out of power.


    Most were terrified of Stalin.
    No. Putin became prime minister.

  10. by avatar martin14
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:36 am
    "Tman1" said


    P.S - Isn't Putin supposed to be out of power? Ahh yes, nobody in Russia is "ever" out of power.



    oh, i think its pretty obvious, especially after this annual Q&A in Russia,
    first done by Putin as president, now done by Putin as PM, whats going on in
    Russia, and who is in control.

    Putin wants strong control, and he will get it, and we will do nothing,
    and I'm not sure its really a big deal.

    Sheps right, no democratic tradition in Russia at all.
    Personally I prefer a stable Russia, as opposed to what they had in
    the 90's, that was a real mess.

    What needs to be done is to get the Europeans out of suckling Russia's
    big gas and oil teat.. reduce their economic threat..

  11. by avatar llama66
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:43 am
    agreed, there really has never been a democratic tradition, it went from the Tsars to Bolsheviks and then on to Stalinist rule. Russians didn't know what to do with the freedom. Europe could always get their oil and gas from Canada.

  12. by avatar martin14
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:49 am
    sure, we'll get ziggy to start working the pipeline :)

  13. by Terence
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:38 pm
    C'mon, Medvedev is Putin's puppet.

    Next "election" :roll:, Putin will return to the Presidency, until he maxes out again, or changes the term limit law which forced him out.

    That man is every bit as much the Stalinist as Josef himself. Hopefully someone poisons him like they did the original.

  14. by avatar llama66
    Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:06 pm
    Really? you think that Putin is every bit as "Stalinist" as uncle Joe? I see things differently, he's giving the people what they want, less freedom. This may be a shock, but, not everyone in the world wants a free society, some want to be told what to do and when to do it. Its par for the course for a nation that, since its founding almost, has been non-democratic. Either the Tsars or the Communist Party have called the shots, Russians are not, contrary to popular belief, going to embrace democracy. Putin is no comparison to Iosif Stalin.



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