Residents in Maracaibo, Venezuela - once the oil capital of the country - are eating spoiled meat after months of powercuts have made refrigerators idle and ruining whole sides of beef.
"Son, do not trust any women who think there is a difference between "socialism" and their own state of affairs. They are not worth it. Leave them to get their education from other men."
"martin14" said The only reason socialism isn't working in Venezuela is because:
* The right people aren't in charge!
* It's a right-wing conspiracy!
* Capitalism is sabotaging the People's Revolution!
* The Jewish banking cartels are trying to stop Maduro!
* The rich capitalists are trying to overthrow the government!
* The (Colombians/Brazilians/Ecuadorans/Peruvians/Panamanians/Dutch/English) are jealous of Venezuela's economic equality!
And etc.
Note that over the years I've heard all of the above as reasons why Venezuela is a train wreck.
You forgot Trump. Somewhere you would also need to add Imperialist Yankees. We are always handy to blame when the leader fouls up, it rains, you get a flat tire, your girlfriend dumps you, ect.
"DrCaleb" said Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Socialism can work when connected to and reliant on surrounding capitalist structures. Basically it plays the capitalist game then syphons off the wealth it draws for socialist systems within. What Bernie calls "Democratic Socialism" or the "European model" is a parasite. It helps when you're small too.
Ultimately though it either goes full-on authoritarian statist, controlling the means of production and fails or something like this happens...
Denmark swings to the right as centre-left coalition accepts defeat
Denmark�s first female prime minister, Helle Thorning-Schmidt, has conceded defeat and resigned as leader of her party after her coalition government lost the election to the centre-right opposition.
Finland and Norway already have rightwing populists in government.
The Danish People's Party (DPP) (Danish: Dansk Folkeparti, DF) is a political party in Denmark which is generally described as right-wing populist by academics and far-right by international media. It has also been described in academia and the media as a nativist and anti-immigrant party. It is the most right-wing party in the Danish Parliament.
"DrCaleb" said Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Denmark has long taken offense at being called 'socialist'. Even the recent PM castigated Bernie Sanders for the 'slur' of labeling Denmark as socialist.
The Danes apparently have grown weary of Sen. Bernie Sanders insulting their country. Denmark is not a socialist nation, says its prime minister. It has a "market economy."
Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who calls himself a socialist, has used Denmark as the example of the socialist utopia he wants to create in America. During the Democrats' first debate last month, he said "we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people."
While appearing in New Hampshire in September, Sanders said that he had "talked to a guy from Denmark" who told him that in Denmark, "it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard to be very, very poor."
"And that makes a lot of sense to me."
So because something makes sense to him, he has the right to force that system on people who don't want it? Isn't that what he's saying?
But we digress. This is about Danes being offending by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe their form of government. And who can blame them, especially when the free world has had enough of national socialists and Soviet socialists and North Korean socialists and Cuban socialists?
While speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the center-right Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said he was aware "that some people in the U.S. associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism."
"Therefore," he said, "I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."
Rasmussen acknowledged that "the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens," but he also noted that it is "a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish."
To that we'll add that Sweden, another of Sanders' inspirations, has for decades quietly moved away from its cradle-to-grave form of government welfare. And the Swedes are better off for having done so, just as the Danes will continue to be better off as their government overhauls its welfare state.
If Sanders is going to continue to use these nations to guide his governing philosophy, he should base his policy positions on what they really are, not what he thinks they are or wants them to be. These countries have learned a harsh lesson. They don't deserve to be Berned again.
"BartSimpson" said Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Denmark has long taken offense at being called 'socialist'. Even the recent PM castigated Bernie Sanders for the 'slur' of labeling Denmark as socialist.
"Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics also had this problem.
Socialism does not equal communism. Nor does capitalism equal democracy.
The fact is, capitalism is by far the best "known" way to run an economy. But capitalism has sharp edges that cause as much harm as good in the form of super wealth, and extreme poverty. Democratic socialism IS the answer (until we figure out something better). You take the gains of capitalism, and you use a large portion to help the country, and people as a whole. And in the process, big business wins too because you have a huge wealthy middle class of educated workers, with money to buy your products, and a well developed and maintained infrastructure to build and transport your products.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics also had this problem.
Socialism does not equal communism. Nor does capitalism equal democracy.
The fact is, capitalism is by far the best "known" way to run an economy. But capitalism has sharp edges that cause as much harm as good in the form of super wealth, and extreme poverty. Democratic socialism IS the answer (until we figure out something better). You take the gains of capitalism, and you use a large portion to help the country, and people as a whole. And in the process, big business wins too because you have a huge wealthy middle class of educated workers, with money to buy your products, and a well developed and maintained infrastructure to build and transport your products.
Scientists Warn the UN of Capitalism's Imminent Demise
Keeping everyone well fed and dead since 1919.
* The right people aren't in charge!
* It's a right-wing conspiracy!
* Capitalism is sabotaging the People's Revolution!
* The Jewish banking cartels are trying to stop Maduro!
* The rich capitalists are trying to overthrow the government!
* The (Colombians/Brazilians/Ecuadorans/Peruvians/Panamanians/Dutch/English) are jealous of Venezuela's economic equality!
And etc.
Note that over the years I've heard all of the above as reasons why Venezuela is a train wreck.
The only reason socialism isn't working in Venezuela is because:
* The right people aren't in charge!
* It's a right-wing conspiracy!
* Capitalism is sabotaging the People's Revolution!
* The Jewish banking cartels are trying to stop Maduro!
* The rich capitalists are trying to overthrow the government!
* The (Colombians/Brazilians/Ecuadorans/Peruvians/Panamanians/Dutch/English) are jealous of Venezuela's economic equality!
And etc.
Note that over the years I've heard all of the above as reasons why Venezuela is a train wreck.
You forgot Trump.
The only reason socialism isn't working in Venezuela is because:
* The right people aren't in charge!
* It's a right-wing conspiracy!
* Capitalism is sabotaging the People's Revolution!
* The Jewish banking cartels are trying to stop Maduro!
* The rich capitalists are trying to overthrow the government!
* The (Colombians/Brazilians/Ecuadorans/Peruvians/Panamanians/Dutch/English) are jealous of Venezuela's economic equality!
And etc.
Note that over the years I've heard all of the above as reasons why Venezuela is a train wreck.
You forgot Trump.
Somewhere you would also need to add Imperialist Yankees. We are always handy to blame when the leader fouls up, it rains, you get a flat tire, your girlfriend dumps you, ect.
Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Socialism can work when connected to and reliant on surrounding capitalist structures. Basically it plays the capitalist game then syphons off the wealth it draws for socialist systems within. What Bernie calls "Democratic Socialism" or the "European model" is a parasite. It helps when you're small too.
Ultimately though it either goes full-on authoritarian statist, controlling the means of production and fails or something like this happens...
Denmark swings to the right as centre-left coalition accepts defeat
Finland and Norway already have rightwing populists in government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_People%27s_Party
Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Denmark has long taken offense at being called 'socialist'. Even the recent PM castigated Bernie Sanders for the 'slur' of labeling Denmark as socialist.
https://www.investors.com/politics/comm ... socialist/
Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who calls himself a socialist, has used Denmark as the example of the socialist utopia he wants to create in America. During the Democrats' first debate last month, he said "we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn from what they have accomplished for their working people."
While appearing in New Hampshire in September, Sanders said that he had "talked to a guy from Denmark" who told him that in Denmark, "it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard to be very, very poor."
"And that makes a lot of sense to me."
So because something makes sense to him, he has the right to force that system on people who don't want it? Isn't that what he's saying?
But we digress. This is about Danes being offending by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe their form of government. And who can blame them, especially when the free world has had enough of national socialists and Soviet socialists and North Korean socialists and Cuban socialists?
While speaking at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, the center-right Danish Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen said he was aware "that some people in the U.S. associate the Nordic model with some sort of socialism."
"Therefore," he said, "I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."
Rasmussen acknowledged that "the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens," but he also noted that it is "a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish."
To that we'll add that Sweden, another of Sanders' inspirations, has for decades quietly moved away from its cradle-to-grave form of government welfare. And the Swedes are better off for having done so, just as the Danes will continue to be better off as their government overhauls its welfare state.
If Sanders is going to continue to use these nations to guide his governing philosophy, he should base his policy positions on what they really are, not what he thinks they are or wants them to be. These countries have learned a harsh lesson. They don't deserve to be Berned again.
Exactly! That's why Denmark is such a shithole.
Denmark has long taken offense at being called 'socialist'. Even the recent PM castigated Bernie Sanders for the 'slur' of labeling Denmark as socialist.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics also had this problem.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics also had this problem.
Socialism does not equal communism. Nor does capitalism equal democracy.
The fact is, capitalism is by far the best "known" way to run an economy. But capitalism has sharp edges that cause as much harm as good in the form of super wealth, and extreme poverty. Democratic socialism IS the answer (until we figure out something better). You take the gains of capitalism, and you use a large portion to help the country, and people as a whole. And in the process, big business wins too because you have a huge wealthy middle class of educated workers, with money to buy your products, and a well developed and maintained infrastructure to build and transport your products.
I'm not the one who has trouble recognizing the differences between Socialism and Communism.
The Union of Soviet Socialist Republics also had this problem.
Socialism does not equal communism. Nor does capitalism equal democracy.
The fact is, capitalism is by far the best "known" way to run an economy. But capitalism has sharp edges that cause as much harm as good in the form of super wealth, and extreme poverty. Democratic socialism IS the answer (until we figure out something better). You take the gains of capitalism, and you use a large portion to help the country, and people as a whole. And in the process, big business wins too because you have a huge wealthy middle class of educated workers, with money to buy your products, and a well developed and maintained infrastructure to build and transport your products.
Scientists Warn the UN of Capitalism's Imminent Demise