[HyperionTheEvil]

DerbyX DerbyX:

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

I've at odds with Derby many a time as he would tell you.

What i can tell you is that Derby although can be infuriating, he's infuriating because as opposed to the mud-throwing and gloating of many Cons he has this tendency to use facts

Thanks. No sweat though. I suspect a far bit of OTIs animosity towards me of late is more to do with him getting reamed by 5 or so forum members for him being a partisan hack (although they seem to be attacking him primarily because he only posts politically during elections) and me getting a pass.

That is pissing him off.

We haven't called each other anything you and I didn't before! Who knows. OTI and I might be sharing a pitcher of beer at a Leaf playoff game next year.

I hear ya

Do me a favour

Tell him to 'get on yer bike' for olds time sake

[DerbyX]

HyperionTheEvil HyperionTheEvil:

I hear ya

Do me a favour

Tell him to 'get on yer bike' for olds time sake

I already did in another thread just a week or so ago.

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[raydan]

DerbyX DerbyX:

I suspect a far bit of OTIs animosity towards me of late is more to do with him getting reamed by 5 or so forum members for him being a partisan hack (although they seem to be attacking him primarily because he only posts politically during elections) and me getting a pass.

That is pissing him off.

We haven't called each other anything you and I didn't before! Who knows. OTI and I might be sharing a pitcher of beer at a Leaf playoff game next year.

That would be me, in part.


But I would NEVER give you a pass, Derby, you know that.

[HyperionTheEvil]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

DerbyX DerbyX:

It is incumbent upon the PM of a minority government to seek the support he needs, not for the opposition parties to simply support him out of fear of being called "uncooperative" or "obstructionist".

Hell one of the opposition parties can even bend over backwards to try and get things out of the ruling party and yet get shot down because what they proposed was untenable to the ruling PM.

The decision and hence the responsibility lies with the guy making that decision.

Unlike you, I don't find it acceptable for any politican, right wing or left wing to declare that they won't be supporting a budget months before they even read it.

That's not cooperation.

Ignatieff made a smart comment a few weeks ago saying that following this election if the Conservatives win, he'll wait for them to propose a budget and then he'd read it.

That's what should be done.

Except for the issue that the other parties must actually believe and have confidence in the government to support such a party.

Over the last few years Harper has been hiding, obstructing and generally obfuscating as much as possible, not telling the truth about the F-35 fighter jets. When i brought that fact up months ago i was shot down hard by the partisan Cons around here. And guess what

I was right, the cost of the F-35 program which the Harperites proposed was completely out of touch with reality and now even the DND admits its now going above the sated cost.

Why would anyone cooperate with a government that refuse to give actual real costs to programs budget or no budget? As far as the opposition parties can tell it was total fiction.

[DerbyX]

raydan raydan:

DerbyX DerbyX:

I suspect a far bit of OTIs animosity towards me of late is more to do with him getting reamed by 5 or so forum members for him being a partisan hack (although they seem to be attacking him primarily because he only posts politically during elections) and me getting a pass.

That is pissing him off.

We haven't called each other anything you and I didn't before! Who knows. OTI and I might be sharing a pitcher of beer at a Leaf playoff game next year.

That would be me, in part.


But I would NEVER give you a pass, Derby, you know that.

Yes but you save it all for hockey & CFL threads. OTI is in none of those.

[raydan]

DerbyX DerbyX:

raydan raydan:

DerbyX DerbyX:

I suspect a far bit of OTIs animosity towards me of late is more to do with him getting reamed by 5 or so forum members for him being a partisan hack (although they seem to be attacking him primarily because he only posts politically during elections) and me getting a pass.

That is pissing him off.

We haven't called each other anything you and I didn't before! Who knows. OTI and I might be sharing a pitcher of beer at a Leaf playoff game next year.

That would be me, in part.


But I would NEVER give you a pass, Derby, you know that.

Yes but you save it all for hockey & CFL threads. OTI is in none of those.

Nope, I gave him hell in political threads... I think I was first, or a close second. Maybe OTI could confirm... but he hates me, so maybe not.

But like you said, we'd probably get along in front of a couple of beers no problem, as long as he doesn't talk about politics, or the Leafs.

[DerbyX]

raydan raydan:

Nope, I gave him hell in political threads... I think I was first, or a close second. Maybe OTI could confirm... but he hates me, so maybe not.

But like you said, we'd probably get along in front of a couple of beers no problem, as long as he doesn't talk about politics, or the Leafs.

Hey. Don't take it out on the Leafs. I was cheering for the Habs against Boston unlike certain Canuck fans here.

[2Cdo]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Hey. Don't take it out on the Leafs. I was cheering for the Habs against Boston unlike certain Canuck fans here.

Wow, a triple loser. Likes the Leafs, Habs and Liberals!