[Brenda]

Keemo Keemo:

Brenda Brenda:

And of course, make the rule that it can only be sold in specialty stores.

I was thinking of the regular Beer and Wine stores/liquor stores as outlets.

I think there should come a whole new store. Where they have trained people who know what they sell, who know what the dangers are, and can help you sort out what kind of weed or mushroom you want, and does for the mood you are in or want to get in. It should come with a flyer, telling the dangers and warning you for whatever might happen.

The regular liquor stores are not good enough.

[mtbr]

Keemo Keemo:

Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.

what would the organized crime rings do for money..switch to harder drugs. Do you think they would just give up and get real jobs.

Thats a real tired argument. The beer and wine excuse is also nonsense, we don't need any more legal drugs.

[romanP]

ridenrain ridenrain:

These arguments always result in the same stipid problem; The US isn't going to change it's drug policy just because Canada does. If Canada does change it's drug policy, the Canada/US morder is going to look worst than the US/Mexico border in very short order.

I think they will soon, a lot of states are legalising it. Whether it's a criminal act or not all depends on who you get caught by, the state police or the Fedz.

[romanP]

mtbr mtbr:

Keemo Keemo:

Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.

what would the organized crime rings do for money..switch to harder drugs. Do you think they would just give up and get real jobs.

So legalise the hard drugs too.

[Dayseed]

Are we assuming that the marijuana grown in Canada is consumed in Canada? To all those on here that think somehow Canada would be a crime-free utopia by legalizing marijuana: You're fucking idiots. Unless the United States shifts its policy on marijuana, we can hand it out at the local Safeway free with a $50 purchase and crooks will still grow it to ship it south of the border.

Cigarettes are legal here AND in the United States, yet still we have gobs of cigarette smuggling by bikers or other organized crime or excise tax avoidance by Indians selling imports off their reserves. I'd like the pro-legalization crowd to explain how marijuana crime would dry up in Canada given BOTH the prohibition in the United States AND how there is still cigarette smuggling being done by organized crime despite the outright legalization of cigarettes.

Have at it you fucking genuises.

[Normalguy]

It' just too funny, "Victimless crimes", a termed coined by Defence Lawyers defending their sh*tpump clients, druggies, thieves and. Drug induced, morally bankrupt fantasy "I think there should come a whole new store. Where they have trained people who know what they sell, who know what the dangers are, and can help you sort out what kind of weed or mushroom you want, and does for the mood you are in or want to get in. It should come with a flyer, telling the dangers and warning you for whatever might happen.

The regular liquor stores are not good enough."

You either have a civilization with a codified system of laws, or anarchy. No wonder the muslims hate us. Go ahead, sit right down with your kids tonight and smoke a joint, smoke some crack, eat some mushrooms, what role models you are, what citizens of the world...no victims right?,...druggy freaks.

Ubi concordia, ibi victoria - Where is the unity, there is the victory. (Publius Syrus)

[CanAm1]

If they are going to be stupid enough to legalize it then tax the shit out of it. And regulate it so much that it chokes off some of the producers.
My call would be not legalize it though.

The funny thing is that, the government will go after people harder for avoiding taxes than they will dope growers

[Brenda]

Dayseed Dayseed:

Are we assuming that the marijuana grown in Canada is consumed in Canada? To all those on here that think somehow Canada would be a crime-free utopia by legalizing marijuana: You're fucking idiots. Unless the United States shifts its policy on marijuana, we can hand it out at the local Safeway free with a $50 purchase and crooks will still grow it to ship it south of the border.

Cigarettes are legal here AND in the United States, yet still we have gobs of cigarette smuggling by bikers or other organized crime or excise tax avoidance by Indians selling imports off their reserves. I'd like the pro-legalization crowd to explain how marijuana crime would dry up in Canada given BOTH the prohibition in the United States AND how there is still cigarette smuggling being done by organized crime despite the outright legalization of cigarettes.

Have at it you fucking genuises.

Well there handsome, it won't, but at least you (as a customer) can go to a shop where they actually know what they are doing.

[ridenrain]

Dayseed Dayseed:

Are we assuming that the marijuana grown in Canada is consumed in Canada? To all those on here that think somehow Canada would be a crime-free utopia by legalizing marijuana: You're fucking idiots. Unless the United States shifts its policy on marijuana, we can hand it out at the local Safeway free with a $50 purchase and crooks will still grow it to ship it south of the border.

Cigarettes are legal here AND in the United States, yet still we have gobs of cigarette smuggling by bikers or other organized crime or excise tax avoidance by Indians selling imports off their reserves. I'd like the pro-legalization crowd to explain how marijuana crime would dry up in Canada given BOTH the prohibition in the United States AND how there is still cigarette smuggling being done by organized crime despite the outright legalization of cigarettes.

Have at it you fucking genuises.

Thank you dayseed. We agree on this one.
As commanderkai said, I guess these arguments make sense when you're stoned.

[kenmore]

hmmm. well they caught some guys in Quebec bringing it into Canada from the states..10 hockeybags of it.. guess its the free trade thing eh?

[inquiksilver]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

camerontech camerontech:

RUEZ RUEZ:

I can't believe that's the future of our country.

bah, I wouldn't say that Ruez. I smoked a LOT of pot in college and high school...I mean a LOT, 420 was a national holiday for me...then I got a job for a mining company as a geologist the day I graduated, I quit the same day, haven't touched it since. I know I'm an oddity, but you can't lose faith, a lot of these kids will grow out of it just like many people do and become good productive members of society. Can't lose faith on our youth that easy

So... Legalize it... Why not, if we grow out of it anyway?

Let the Youth Relax in these stressful new times... Less harmful then Alcohol and Cigarettes, both already used as relaxants... And neither work as good as weed. harmful or not, The good outway the bad, and it's kinda hypocritical to keep it illegal with Cigs and Beer still legal.

*rolls*

And I'd liek to note, some of the greatest things in life were created by people stoned out of their fuggin minds.

Mona Lisa anyone?

Yeah, and heroin works even better than weed and as an added bonus it won't give you lung cancer. So why not make that legal too?

[commanderkai]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Dayseed Dayseed:

Are we assuming that the marijuana grown in Canada is consumed in Canada? To all those on here that think somehow Canada would be a crime-free utopia by legalizing marijuana: You're fucking idiots. Unless the United States shifts its policy on marijuana, we can hand it out at the local Safeway free with a $50 purchase and crooks will still grow it to ship it south of the border.

Cigarettes are legal here AND in the United States, yet still we have gobs of cigarette smuggling by bikers or other organized crime or excise tax avoidance by Indians selling imports off their reserves. I'd like the pro-legalization crowd to explain how marijuana crime would dry up in Canada given BOTH the prohibition in the United States AND how there is still cigarette smuggling being done by organized crime despite the outright legalization of cigarettes.

Have at it you fucking genuises.

Thank you dayseed. We agree on this one.
As commanderkai said, I guess these arguments make sense when you're stoned.

I'm getting quoted by the esteemed Ridenrain, I'm finally recognized on this site! YAY! lol

Thanks Ridenrain

[ShepherdsDog]

$1:

You do know that crack is to coca what hash is to weed, right?

With a shitload more chemical processing than hash ever goes through. The effects on the user are also dramatically different.

[Zipperfish]

mtbr mtbr:

Keemo Keemo:

Leagalising pot would put the grow ops out of business, and deprive the organized crime rings of a serious income stream. Much of the pot grown now is traded to the US for cocaine and guns. Were we to legalize it and treat it under the same rules as beer and wine, we would free up police resource to deal with the serious drugs like cocaine and crystal meth. Taxed like beer and wine, it could pay for fighting the serious drugs. Legalized, the serious growers, rather than the merely criminally inclined ones, could go legitimate and pay taxes. Their employees would also be paying taxes, and the truckers hauling it off to the LCB distro centre. Under our current pot laws, only cops, lawyers and criminal groups benefit.

what would the organized crime rings do for money..switch to harder drugs. Do you think they would just give up and get real jobs.

Thats a real tired argument. The beer and wine excuse is also nonsense, we don't need any more legal drugs.

Sure we do. Everything should be legal until shown to cause significant societal harm. That's called freedom. Freedom--perhaps you've heard of it, though probably not. I guess scaredy-cats like you can't wait for the police state because you walk around ina permanent state of fear wouldn't know about that.

[Zipperfish]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

$1:

You do know that crack is to coca what hash is to weed, right?

With a shitload more chemical processing than hash ever goes through. The effects on the user are also dramatically different.

You could use a hoot. Might loosen that big pole stuck up your ass.